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		<title>By: Eric Bollens</title>
		<link>http://safewestside.com/petition/2009/02/comment-page-2/#comment-168</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Bollens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ricky Bobby, I do not believe that anywhere have any of us asserted that vigilante actions are appropriate. The actions you&#039;ve described only add to the danger of an already dangerous situation. Along that line, note that Speed Watch (citizen radar program) operates under the purview of the Los Angeles Police Department with strict regulations on its participants -- they cannot and do not pursue or attempt to stunt the actions of dangerous drivers except through the warning letters issued by the LAPD. Those letters do in fact help, especially in the case of a kid whose parent receives the letter when otherwise they might not be aware of their child&#039;s dangerous actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ricky Bobby, I do not believe that anywhere have any of us asserted that vigilante actions are appropriate. The actions you&#8217;ve described only add to the danger of an already dangerous situation. Along that line, note that Speed Watch (citizen radar program) operates under the purview of the Los Angeles Police Department with strict regulations on its participants &#8212; they cannot and do not pursue or attempt to stunt the actions of dangerous drivers except through the warning letters issued by the LAPD. Those letters do in fact help, especially in the case of a kid whose parent receives the letter when otherwise they might not be aware of their child&#8217;s dangerous actions.</p>
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		<title>By: ricky bobby</title>
		<link>http://safewestside.com/petition/2009/02/comment-page-2/#comment-167</link>
		<dc:creator>ricky bobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 04:32:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that drivers should slow down, but honestly- this happened to me the other day- when another driver feels that you are speeding so he shoves his front bumper so close that if you tapped your brakes he wold have rear-ended you, starts honking, flashing his brights, and chasing you- even weaving through traffic to get at you- then pulls out a camera to take a picture of your car, its feaky, and increases the likelihood of an accident. This &quot;vigilante&quot; bull**** does not help, and the other adult drivers in the palisades have to get that simple fact into their heads. No amount of angry DMV letters, threats, tailgaiting, honking, flashing lights, or pictures are going to stop people from speeding. and to those supporters of speed bumps - just think- do you really want 3 miles worth of speed bumps that you will need to travel over every day on your daily commute?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that drivers should slow down, but honestly- this happened to me the other day- when another driver feels that you are speeding so he shoves his front bumper so close that if you tapped your brakes he wold have rear-ended you, starts honking, flashing his brights, and chasing you- even weaving through traffic to get at you- then pulls out a camera to take a picture of your car, its feaky, and increases the likelihood of an accident. This &#8220;vigilante&#8221; bull**** does not help, and the other adult drivers in the palisades have to get that simple fact into their heads. No amount of angry DMV letters, threats, tailgaiting, honking, flashing lights, or pictures are going to stop people from speeding. and to those supporters of speed bumps &#8211; just think- do you really want 3 miles worth of speed bumps that you will need to travel over every day on your daily commute?</p>
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		<title>By: Finn-Olaf Jones</title>
		<link>http://safewestside.com/petition/2009/02/comment-page-2/#comment-98</link>
		<dc:creator>Finn-Olaf Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone with four sons living in the Highlands, I am very concerned with safety on Palisades Drive. However, I am very much concerned by some of our neighbor&#039;s attempts to turn this wonderful road into a police state. Given the accidents that have occurred here, I would say the key to safety is not to punish everyone living in the Highlands, but keeping an eye on your teenager&#039;s keys. If  your child  drives 80 MPH on the wrong side of the road, they will eventually hurt themselves, as happened last month. Monitor your child, not the rest of us.  Imposing police, cameras and other elements to harass your neighbors is a horrible ideas and undermines the community spirit of the Highlands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone with four sons living in the Highlands, I am very concerned with safety on Palisades Drive. However, I am very much concerned by some of our neighbor&#8217;s attempts to turn this wonderful road into a police state. Given the accidents that have occurred here, I would say the key to safety is not to punish everyone living in the Highlands, but keeping an eye on your teenager&#8217;s keys. If  your child  drives 80 MPH on the wrong side of the road, they will eventually hurt themselves, as happened last month. Monitor your child, not the rest of us.  Imposing police, cameras and other elements to harass your neighbors is a horrible ideas and undermines the community spirit of the Highlands.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
		<link>http://safewestside.com/petition/2009/02/comment-page-2/#comment-92</link>
		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 05:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>maybe a more precisely worded petition would be a good place to start.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>maybe a more precisely worded petition would be a good place to start.</p>
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		<title>By: Emile Levisetti</title>
		<link>http://safewestside.com/petition/2009/02/comment-page-2/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Emile Levisetti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 07:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to add Entrada Dr. to the list of streets needing to be policed.  There is an accident almost everyday on the U curve.   And the people speeding UP it form PCH go faster than those going down!! I have helped two bikers and a moped who were hit.  I sincerely hope it does not take a fatality to realize how dangerous that curve is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to add Entrada Dr. to the list of streets needing to be policed.  There is an accident almost everyday on the U curve.   And the people speeding UP it form PCH go faster than those going down!! I have helped two bikers and a moped who were hit.  I sincerely hope it does not take a fatality to realize how dangerous that curve is.</p>
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		<title>By: Susann R</title>
		<link>http://safewestside.com/petition/2009/02/comment-page-2/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Susann R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 04:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In principle Palisades Drive is a very safe road if drivers do what they are supposed to do:  respect the speed limit and focus attention on driving (that includes no talking on the cell phone, not even hands free as serious studies have shown).

Ideally, an effective, targeted measure to improve safety on Palisades Drive should affect those who pose the danger to others (and themselves).  An effective, targeted measure should not impact the driving of the entire driving population along this road (like speed bumps or additional stop signs would).  Permanent speed cameras (multiple ones whose location might change periodically) would catch the the speeders, even at night when police is around less often.  If the speed cameras were set to catch anyone going faster than, say, 52 mph then the speeders would be caught and smaller variations around the speed limit -- that can easily occur when going downhill -- would go unpunished.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In principle Palisades Drive is a very safe road if drivers do what they are supposed to do:  respect the speed limit and focus attention on driving (that includes no talking on the cell phone, not even hands free as serious studies have shown).</p>
<p>Ideally, an effective, targeted measure to improve safety on Palisades Drive should affect those who pose the danger to others (and themselves).  An effective, targeted measure should not impact the driving of the entire driving population along this road (like speed bumps or additional stop signs would).  Permanent speed cameras (multiple ones whose location might change periodically) would catch the the speeders, even at night when police is around less often.  If the speed cameras were set to catch anyone going faster than, say, 52 mph then the speeders would be caught and smaller variations around the speed limit &#8212; that can easily occur when going downhill &#8212; would go unpunished.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy Miller</title>
		<link>http://safewestside.com/petition/2009/02/comment-page-2/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>Peggy Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:28:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one has died on Palisades Drive driving the speedlimit or anything close to the speedlimit.

Please do not make it worse by entertaining thoughts of making the road straighter or speed bumps,etc.  These only improve the challenge for those determined to get a thrill from driving fast.

Even the mounds that have been created by loved ones leaving flowers, etc. do not seem to slow them down.  Do you really think a sign will?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one has died on Palisades Drive driving the speedlimit or anything close to the speedlimit.</p>
<p>Please do not make it worse by entertaining thoughts of making the road straighter or speed bumps,etc.  These only improve the challenge for those determined to get a thrill from driving fast.</p>
<p>Even the mounds that have been created by loved ones leaving flowers, etc. do not seem to slow them down.  Do you really think a sign will?</p>
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		<title>By: Highlands resident</title>
		<link>http://safewestside.com/petition/2009/02/comment-page-2/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Highlands resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes its the drivers... 

no S***!

this road i drive all the time, becuase i have to. seeing cops everywhere all the time is freaky and i guess thats how it is now. but think about it people, what happened was life. humans happened. people have urges people have feelings and compulse its just how the world is. death is a part of life the more begin to realize that the easier youll lives will be...

p.s. people flashing others for going to the speed limit and your going 35? seriously , your retarded i was driving home and 2 cars like nice Xenon lights blinked at me .... for going 50!.. im sorry people but THIS IS BULLSHIT, i was astonished and actually got very angry and wanted to pull over and follow this imbicile(s) about this becuase i could crash just for you blinding me which actually almost happened.... so everyone please relax and think about the real reason. its ashame all these people come on here complaining about other things that are rediculous

well anyways  DONT BLIND PEOPLE DRIVING EVEN IF THEY WANT TO MAKE THE MISTAKE OF SPEEDING</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes its the drivers&#8230; </p>
<p>no S***!</p>
<p>this road i drive all the time, becuase i have to. seeing cops everywhere all the time is freaky and i guess thats how it is now. but think about it people, what happened was life. humans happened. people have urges people have feelings and compulse its just how the world is. death is a part of life the more begin to realize that the easier youll lives will be&#8230;</p>
<p>p.s. people flashing others for going to the speed limit and your going 35? seriously , your retarded i was driving home and 2 cars like nice Xenon lights blinked at me &#8230;. for going 50!.. im sorry people but THIS IS BULLSHIT, i was astonished and actually got very angry and wanted to pull over and follow this imbicile(s) about this becuase i could crash just for you blinding me which actually almost happened&#8230;. so everyone please relax and think about the real reason. its ashame all these people come on here complaining about other things that are rediculous</p>
<p>well anyways  DONT BLIND PEOPLE DRIVING EVEN IF THEY WANT TO MAKE THE MISTAKE OF SPEEDING</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Schoenberg</title>
		<link>http://safewestside.com/petition/2009/02/comment-page-2/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Schoenberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 20:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From a  letter that I had sent to our congressman in 2005 with no response:

Sunset Blvd between the San Diego Freeway and Pacific Coast Highway
through Brentwood and Pacific Palisades is dangerous to navigate. I
regularly observe vehicles crossing over the center double line.
It seems that it would be worthwhile placing flexible rubber road
dividers at various dangerous sections of this stretch.

The placement of these road dividers should slow the traffic and
create a safer drive.

Thank you for your consideration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From a  letter that I had sent to our congressman in 2005 with no response:</p>
<p>Sunset Blvd between the San Diego Freeway and Pacific Coast Highway<br />
through Brentwood and Pacific Palisades is dangerous to navigate. I<br />
regularly observe vehicles crossing over the center double line.<br />
It seems that it would be worthwhile placing flexible rubber road<br />
dividers at various dangerous sections of this stretch.</p>
<p>The placement of these road dividers should slow the traffic and<br />
create a safer drive.</p>
<p>Thank you for your consideration.</p>
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		<title>By: Julie</title>
		<link>http://safewestside.com/petition/2009/02/comment-page-2/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have read all of the comments posted here. I don&#039;t personally know anyone who has been killed on Palisades Drive, but the loss of their lives has touched me nevertheless. Lots of people I do love drive up and down that road each and every day. It freaks me out to know that they are putting their lives at risk just by being there. Palisades Drive is not a race track. If you are speeding even just a little bit  because you are running late you will not necessarily get you to your destination any faster. In fact you may only be &#039;saving&#039; a minute or two. Is it worth that minute to put your life and the lives of others in jeopardy??? I will more often than not catch up with you at the bottom of the hill where you are waiting for the light to change. So was it really worth it? 

As for teenage drivers it is important to be brave enough to talk with them about the responsibilities of driving a car. Remember always that getting behind the wheel of a car is a privilege and not a right. And with a privilege comes accountability. In fact there are probably some adults who may have forgotten this fact, so remind them too.

S-L-O-W D-O-W-N people. Shout it from the rooftops, put a message to those you love on their facebook page, put in your blog, just let the people you care about know of the dangers of speeding. Go to an emergency room and speak with a doctor who sees the injuries bodies sustain when involved in high speed crashes - it&#039;s not glamorous, pretty or cool. It is just sad and tragic.

Spread love and caring to those you love, those you might love and those you may never love but would never wish for them to die in a car accident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have read all of the comments posted here. I don&#8217;t personally know anyone who has been killed on Palisades Drive, but the loss of their lives has touched me nevertheless. Lots of people I do love drive up and down that road each and every day. It freaks me out to know that they are putting their lives at risk just by being there. Palisades Drive is not a race track. If you are speeding even just a little bit  because you are running late you will not necessarily get you to your destination any faster. In fact you may only be &#8216;saving&#8217; a minute or two. Is it worth that minute to put your life and the lives of others in jeopardy??? I will more often than not catch up with you at the bottom of the hill where you are waiting for the light to change. So was it really worth it? </p>
<p>As for teenage drivers it is important to be brave enough to talk with them about the responsibilities of driving a car. Remember always that getting behind the wheel of a car is a privilege and not a right. And with a privilege comes accountability. In fact there are probably some adults who may have forgotten this fact, so remind them too.</p>
<p>S-L-O-W D-O-W-N people. Shout it from the rooftops, put a message to those you love on their facebook page, put in your blog, just let the people you care about know of the dangers of speeding. Go to an emergency room and speak with a doctor who sees the injuries bodies sustain when involved in high speed crashes &#8211; it&#8217;s not glamorous, pretty or cool. It is just sad and tragic.</p>
<p>Spread love and caring to those you love, those you might love and those you may never love but would never wish for them to die in a car accident.</p>
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